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    Question Need HELP: Theta Light cycles overlaying with Gamma Sound? In KBS Editor

    Hi There My name is Jos nice to meet you all,

    I am new to the Light and Sound devices and have just ordered my first machine its a Kasina.
    I bought the device with the sole purpose of attaining a altered state of consciousness.
    The so called Theta-Gamma-Sync, I read a post of a member of a different forum that this brainwave state can be easily reached and trained with a Light Sound machine. The poster posted this a while ago, I reached out to him/her but did not got a response. However I bought the Kasina and now I am here, ready to program a session for this purpose.

    The person said I should ramp down to (lights) Theta over a 6 minute period and than hold Theta for 5 minutes and then over lay it with (sound square wave) Gamma every 5 minutes for a duration of 10 seconds.

    I really have no clue how to go about this when using the editing software KBS Editior

    What I did as fat right now is: Dividing the session up in segments
    First Segment:
    Has a duration of 360:00 the beat has 4,5HZ. (does this cause the ramp down?)
    Second Segment:
    Has a duration of 300:00 the beat has 4,5HZ.
    Third Segment: Has a duration of 10:00 the beat has 40HZ and SndWP is placed on square.
    The rest of the segments alternating between the second and third segments.

    Can somebody tell me if this is the right setup?
    Schermafdruk van 2021-04-25 14-49-08.png

    Here is the text on with I based this settings:

    ¨One of the best ways to do this is to get a light and sound machine that you can program. Ramp down into theta over about a 6 minute period. Then, hold that state for another 5 minutes or so. Then overlay bursts of gamma for a few seconds every 5 minutes or so. Max session length for practical purposes is about 45 min.
    I recommend using the lights to help you into theta and sounds (square wave) for the gamma bursts. Gamma with lights can look like a solid on light. I use 40 cps gamma generally and can create a tone that is clearly audible for that where the pulsing is clear vs 40 cps light looking like a solid on light.¨

    ¨Theta is a profound altered stated. Gamma overlaid on it creates an extensive expanded awareness and a being at one with everything kind of feeling in many. It is also transient and is easier to maintain for a small amount of time, say 30 minutes or so if you have those signals being introduced regularly via a light and sound device.
    Practice and get good with theta say around 6 cps. Once that is easy, then overlay gamma signals every 5 minutes or so for a few seconds. Say 10 seconds worth.¨

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    Default Re: Need HELP: Theta Light cycles overlaying with Gamma Sound? In KBS Editor

    Hi Jos;

    Welcome to the forum!

    You'll get a better idea of what's actually happening by checking out the Session Chart tab on the Editor:
    KBS 1.jpg

    You can see that by default, when the beat changes between segments, the Kasina ramps from the 1st frequency to the 2nd.
    From your description, it sounds like you are looking for "bursts" of gamma every 5 minutes for 10 seconds. Is that right?
    If so, do you want your session to look more like this?
    KBS 3.jpg

    I've attached the .kbs file if you want to play with it some more.
    Attached Files Attached Files
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    Default Re: Need HELP: Theta Light cycles overlaying with Gamma Sound? In KBS Editor

    Yes the person mentioned that the user needed to setup it up so that the Gamma burst every 5 minutes for 10 seconds.

    I just opened the file in the KBS Editor and I looks like that you made settings just like the person was talking about. If so, than thank you very freaking much!!!

    However one last question about this particular file you made, Does this have a soft ending? because I read somewhere that sessions need to have soft endings. If not how can I insert a soft ending in this file.
    I assume to click on + for new segment and then 10 HZ as beat for a duration of 1min ?

    Although the person mentioned 6 HZ I opted for 4,5 HZ is there a significantly difference between those to parameters?

    Again thank you so much!!

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    Default Re: Need HELP: Theta Light cycles overlaying with Gamma Sound? In KBS Editor

    You're very welcome.

    What's a "soft ending"?
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    Default Re: Need HELP: Theta Light cycles overlaying with Gamma Sound? In KBS Editor

    By soft ending I mean a Fade-out, Its probably used as a way to slowly re-adjust to normal beta brainwaves

    Here is a screenshot I made from the video tutorial of the old KBS Editior:

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    Default Re: Need HELP: Theta Light cycles overlaying with Gamma Sound? In KBS Editor

    Oh, I see. That's just the audio and lighting fading in at the start and fading out at the end. Easy-peasy.
    Your first segment already fades in over the 6 minutes. If you would like that fade in time to be shorter, just add a short segment before the #1 segment that has the time you'd like to fade in.
    Notice that segment 0 has a brightness and volume of 0% which means lights off and sound off. Over the next segment (#1) the lights and sound will fade in until they are at 100% a the end of that segment.

    To fade out, just add an additional segment at the end that's much like the 1st segment, with a brightness and volume of 0.

    Here's a modified session with the addition of a 10 second fade-in and a 20 second fade-out.
    KBS 4.jpg
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    Default Re: Need HELP: Theta Light cycles overlaying with Gamma Sound? In KBS Editor

    Sweat thanks now its perfect, only waiting on delivery and i am good to go.
    I was stressing the last 36 hours. How to edited it such as the person mentioned but you saved me big time. Again thank you very much.
    Last edited by Jos Bos; 04-25-2021 at 10:05 PM.

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