Kasina Glasses improvement

I was not satisfied by the colors I saw with the Kasina and also the Procyon Glasses (they did not really show one clear color but seperate colors of the leds ) .So I took the material from one of these cheap round balllike chinese led lamps ( its about 3 millimeters thick flexible gumlike and milkywhite) I cut two pieces out to put them over the lights in the glasses with about one millimeter air between the leds and the covers.(Ah and this might be important the lamp I took them from was round like a ball so the pieces I cut are somewhat like lences and bundle the light to the highest point which slightly touches the eylid when wearing the glasses.
And wow this simple thing did wonders the effect is really drastic . Now I can see really clearly the colers (with closed eyes as if they where open) .And as a bonus the feeling is much more soothing and pleasant .

Esthy

>>cheap round balllike chinese led lamps ( its about 3 millimeters thick flexible gumlike and milkywhite)...<<

Very interesting Esthy.

Can you add some images for us to see what you have done? I am in China (well Hong Kong) and not sure what Chinese led lamps you are referring to. Certainly beats my white handkerchief approach. :)

Best regards.

What I meant is that these lamps are made in china not that they are traditional chinese lamps.
Have a look here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lb1gwIH2BQ4 or http://www.tecxon.com/product_1A.asp...categoryid=155
I guess I used this ones cause they also came in three its just important that the material is flexible you can push them in and they do not
break if they fall.
Here in Switzerland you can buy them in electronic , light or giftshops.
cheers
Esthy

Ping pong balls cut down, and plastic milk carton containers trimmed up work nicely too.

I just received my Kasina on Saturday. I also own the Laxman Light Sound Machine. I don't like the heaviness/bulkiness of the Laxman Goggles. But I do like the visuals.

Is there going to be a comparable Kasina Goggle in the future? I always enjoyed the patterns/Mandelas that the Laxman produced. Possibly this is due to the programs instead of the Goggles. Most of the Sessions I have done with the Kasina have been found in the Mind Art area.

I am a Moderator over at the AstralPulse.com where we have a huge thread on AVS machines. It was named the Laxman thread in the past, but now has the Kasina and my first impressions of the Kasina there.

My personal Thank You to the creators of the Kasina and this Forum in general. You have done a fantastic job with this machine. It is easy to use, has great Sessions and is very "State of the Art". I put a link to this Forum to help the many members interested in AVS over at the Astral pulse to be able to find more information and also join in your conversations here.

Thanks again! :)

Hello Lionheart and welcome!

Thank you for your kind words. It's a labour of love for the people that work at MindPlace and the customers that frequent the forums.

I know that MindPlace is always working on new products, and I believe that some new Ganzframes are in the pipeline. No details as yet, but certainly there's been a lot of interest in eyes-open Lightframes as well as diffused Lightframes like the Laxman uses.

Keep checking back for more news, and while you're here, enjoy the great articles, threads and blogs that have been written about AVS.

Cheers!

Hi Lionheart,
Welcome to the MindPlace forum! I am a long time reader of Astral Pulse. It is a very lively and interesting site. Thank you for highlighting the Kasina there. I will come over and offer help to your users. Of course, you and your readers are most welcome at this forum too.

Glasses like you request are in development and we are receiving our second set of prototypes from the factory next week. So the 'how' stage of the design process is advancing. No estimate on 'when' for the public yet though. It is at the top of our list for product releases suffice it to say.

BTW, the prototypes I have... the open eye visuals on the Kasina are awesome!

Thank you for introducing the Kasina to your readers and if we can be of any help please let us know!

Best regards,
Scott

Hi Scott
Is it possible to test one of these prototypes cause I'm wondering if the effect is as stunning as with the material I used?
Esthy

No, they are only available to internal staff and only as a test platform... Really I'm just trying to give people updates so you know that we are working on it, to fend off questions. Of course if you offered us a million bucks then that is different! JK

In the meantime a simple handkerchief or white cloth over the LEDs does a fairly good job for open eyes.

Thanks for your interest,
Scott

I like the whole idea of other choices in GanzFrames.

Since the subject was brought up I owned a Laxman and returned it after what I thought were defective pre programmed sessions with weird clicks, pops, and other noises. I'm guessing this was with all Laxmans because I sent it to Germany (1 month ship time) and they sent it back the same and said it was fixed. I paid double ($700.00) what I paid for my Kasina and you know what ? I already know that the Kasina performs leaps and bounds ahead and I've only been able to access some limited relaxation sessions in their entirety do to a temporarily full schedule. I have checked out several others and am exited to try them.

The more I used the Laxman open eye GanzFrames the more they annoyed me especially when I just wanted to relax. I felt the frames were ineffective when used closed eye.

Try to keep this in mind when using a mind place product, I purchased a Procyon several years ago at the same time I purchased a Laxman and I still own and use the Procyon regularly, I've never had one problem with it, I love the GanzFrames, I enjoy closed eye GanzFrames the most and find the Procyon has more than adequate brightness and intensity when needed.

I just got my Kasina but I know I'm in for the same experience with it and it's a great feeling. Programming the Procyon has been all kinds of fun and there's so much left. I can't wait to get into the Kasina more.

For me it's simple, I have no complaints, I love the equipment, the software is easy to use, the support is amazing, the experience is ongoing and that's an unbeatable package. I'd rather wait for great equipment than have possibly mediocre equipment with possible bugs and I think that's what's going on here, Mindplace has flawless performing equipment, in my opinion.

Maybe people who explore their minds are more critical of everything in general, I know I tend to be, and therefore they're always expecting something more. In my case my Procyon and my Kasina are everything I need them to be and more and I love to program and I love to explore.

I'm somewhat biased, but I totally agree about MindPlace products. The Procyon was the first device I acquired - I bought it after much consideration of the competitive offerings. I have subsequently acquired a good number of the devices that I didn't choose and some that have arrived on the scene later. I don't regret my original choice and while my Kasina is nearest, I still have a Procyon (and, to be fair, a MBM) within arm's reach.

I also have a Laxman and have observed no problems other than the notoriously fragile nose piece wiring and some quirky power and control operation. It's a shame you've had such a negative experience. Although the Kasina eats it for breakfast in every possible way, most notably value, the Laxman was a worthy offering at the time and I know of many users who have enjoyed spectacular results.

For anything serious I tend to use closed-eye. Open-eye is cool and different, but it's very hard work staying with the session without fatigue. In functional terms, open-eye is pretty much useless below 10Hz - opening eyes is accompanied by increased beta, closing eyes gives an immediate kick into alpha. Open-eye is perfect for short beta and mind-art type sessions and for impressing first-timers.

I'm looking forward to the release of the MindPlace open-eye option. Hopefully the choice between the various options will be made soon - none of ones I've tried would disappoint (don't even ask!).

Cheers,
Craig

Craig,
As always you make excellent points about open eye use. I have a lot of fun with it and it is awesome for that 'wow' feeling I love so much (the adrenaline burst of AVS). But when I start to really tune in and trance out, my eyes close.

Scott

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Originally Posted by Thalassa

What I meant is that these lamps are made in china not that they are traditional chinese lamps.
Have a look here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lb1gwIH2BQ4 or http://www.tecxon.com/product_1A.asp...categoryid=155
I guess I used this ones cause they also came in three its just important that the material is flexible you can push them in and they do not
break if they fall.
Here in Switzerland you can buy them in electronic , light or giftshops.
cheers
Esthy

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I am unable to find where I can buy these exact lights online (the original poster mentioned buying in a giftshop). I went to the link on the picture in the 2nd link as well, www.led-rechargeable-candle.com, and it didn't go anywhere, as well as searching for it on amazon. So, I ended up buying these and am posting the link here in case it saves others from searching for it http://www.amazon.com/Color-Changing...ble-Mood-Lamps .

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Originally Posted by neuroasis

Craig,
As always you make excellent points about open eye use. I have a lot of fun with it and it is awesome for that 'wow' feeling I love so much (the adrenaline burst of AVS). But when I start to really tune in and trance out, my eyes close.

Scott

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Hi Scott,

It's now late September. You mentioned the prototype Ganzframes about 9 months ago. Are we any closer to a released product?

John

Hi, John. Thanks for your interest in the coming eyes-open ganzwear! We're currently tweaking the tooling for this project, and expect to release versions for both Kasina and Procyon once we've completed this pre-production process. Stay tuned!

-Robert

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Originally Posted by Robert Austin

Hi, John. Thanks for your interest in the coming eyes-open ganzwear! We're currently tweaking the tooling for this project, and expect to release versions for both Kasina and Procyon once we've completed this pre-production process. Stay tuned!

-Robert

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Excellent!

Will the open eye Ganzframes for Kasina and Procyon still be available this year before xmas?

Matt

There is a lot of activity and resources being invested in this project with finalizing mainly the materials at this point. We want to get the glasses out ASAP. However, not so much that we would sacrifice the functionality or quality. In our manufacturing arrangements the holiday season becomes a very busy time so we do hope to fit within that window.

If you go to Amazon, and search for "light diffuser sheets" you'll find sheets of material specifically made for the purpose of diffusing light from point sources like LEDs. Granted, these are for covering lights used in photography, but the are very heat resistant, so pose less risk of melting. Anyway, just another idea.