Update requests

The kasina is an awesome machine with so much capability!
There are a few suggestions i have to improve the user experience
1 when in audio strobe mode it would be great to be able to cycle through the color sets using the up and down button to be able to switch back and forth through the color sets,right now we have to cycle through all of them.
2 it would be great to be able to get a live feed to the glasses through the AUX port when using the spectra strobe mode in TKE so we could listen on loudspeakers and use the light glasses.
3 A two way spliter for additional glasses would be great.
Thank you.

I tend to agree with you on #1 although there is not another button position available. In doing sessions, especially as my state of mind gets altered, I will be switching through ColorSets and find something I like for a while and then switch away, then try to go back and forget that the UP button switches to Color Organ, so the experience totally changes. Or I thought 'hey this is a really good bit of AS programming' and then look and it is the Color Organ. Not a big deal... but could be improved.

Maybe double click could go back? Or double click on up... could be switch to the Color Organ? This requires more coding and timers to figure out what a double click is and then short circuits rapidly switching items on the list. See there are always trade-offs.

On #2 can this be split at the sound source with separate feeds to the AUX and house mixer/speakers? Or am I misunderstanding the request?

On #3 We will probably want to do this but it is surprising how difficult it is to find splitters with our wiring. The Procyon ones were almost impossible to source. Manufacturing them is costly but if there is enough demand... maybe a Kickstarter campaign or pre-orders could justify it. Anyway, this early in the Kasina life cycle there is simply not enough systems out there. But 2 or more person sessions is awesome. Talk about a mind meld.

Also, you could just buy another Kasina :)

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Originally Posted by Psymatic

The kasina is an awesome machine with so much capability!

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We think it's pretty cool too. Glad you like it!

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There are a few suggestions i have to improve the user experience
2 it would be great to be able to get a live feed to the glasses through the AUX port when using the spectra strobe mode in TKE so we could listen on loudspeakers and use the light glasses.

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If you are meaning that you want to hear the audio being sent via USB to the Kasina through your loudspeakers, just plug them into the headphone output on the Kasina! The AUX port is an audio INPUT to the Kasina.

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3 A two way spliter for additional glasses would be great.

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See here.

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Thank you.

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You're very welcome!

Andy,
Have you confirmed that this splitter works with all the channels of the Kasina? I may have misspoken and would be happy to be corrected.

Hey cool, it does work.. I don't have that exact splitter but the one I do have works, so that one should... That is freaking cool. I never tested this. Thanks for pointing me and Psymatic in the proper direction.

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Originally Posted by neuroasis

Andy,
Have you confirmed that this splitter works with all the channels of the Kasina? I may have misspoken and would be happy to be corrected.

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Yeah, both the Procyon and Kasina use the same TRRS connection. I tested it here and it works.
Would be nice to find a decent source for these so we could carry them! :)

I ordered a splitter from that S Korean eBay source, and it worked fine and had excellent build quality. But he said he was making them by hand and could not sell us a quantity of them conveniently. Pretty much all the '4 conductor splitters' I've seen over the past two years actually 4 > 3 channel splitters, intended for use with smart phones, with mic on one splitter and headphone on the other.

-Robert

Another update Suggestion .It would be great if it where possible to listen to an intern SD-Card audiofile during a SP Session.
So one could create a SP Session without audio and then choose from the SD-Card .
And it also would be great if the original Sessions on the KASINA would be available without audio or as MWS files to change the sounds.
Esthy

Hello Thalassa;

By SP do you mean Spectra-Strobe? You can do what you want currently, but you'll need another music player in addition to the Kasina. Listen to whatever music you like on your music player while wearing the Ganzframes plugged into the Kasina, running whatever session you like.

Yes SP for Spectra-Strobe and I know that I need another musicplayer I meant this for a Kasina Update Suggestion.
Esthy

Understood. I don't believe that will be possible, since the signals for the lights are embedded in the music, and I'm pretty sure the music player does not have the capability to play 2 tracks simultaneously.
However, I believe that there may be the ability in the future to allow music to play along with KBS sessions.

I think a better solution is what you hinted to, creating your own MWS sessions, using whatever music you like.
Scott or Craig will have to chime in on whether they think that the raw MWS files will be offered at some time.

It would be cool if you could connect the kasina to a dmx light decoder ,so you could entrain large groups of people,awesome light shows for concerts!

You can do live light shows pretty easily with SpectraStrobe and a sequencer (with the caveat of having an LED array). Internally, I have a SpectraStrobe sampler for this purpose. I will release a version sometime soon. MuLab can be adapted to it too.

Unless something has changed since I last looked, DMX is too slow for AVS and synchronization of events can't be guaranteed to the phase-angle precision used to create many of the entrainment and other stimulus effects. With the Kasina there's no reason to add DMX to the mix - just add power drivers to the output and go from there - you may find this interesting... http://www.mind-shop.de/mindmachinez...ocyon-319.html - I believe this also works with the Kasina. You will also find circuit and PCB details for a Procyon high power LED driver here.

I have no plans to make the raw MWS, MuLab or Audacity files for my sessions available. As required I may write special sessions to illustrate points.

Cheers,
Craig

Yeah, you would want a high power LED array being driven by the Kasina.. there have been tests with these mostly on Procyon and some solutions are available (though expensive) and surely more will appear. I have a small array and it works great with Procyon and somewhat with the Kasina although not all channels. I'll film it sometime.

Cool i have connected a led light strip amplifier to the kasina with a trrs cable it works with audiostrobe but not spectrastrobe it matches a few of the color sets , but sense i am using RGB led strips it does not match up all the color sets. I plan on building an array with a light strip with each color. How do you get the light array to work in spectra stobe mode? The cirquets on the glasses look sorta complicated to split into a left and right chanel. You guys make mind place an awesome company,thank you!

That's odd. The TRRS cable that you have, is it a cable intended for a smartphone or iOS device? Most of the ones you find retail are.. They are for a mic and a headset. The TRRS cables that I have that work for the Procyon do show AS and SS. Although the LED array and eye open protos that I have are not wired to split the channels. (they are Procyon protos) But all colors do fire. I would say it is cable or led strip input that is the issue more so than it being SS or AS.

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You guys make mind place an awesome company,thank you!

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Thanks, we are just like you... tweakers, geeks and experimenters. We love it when people take an interest and try to push the envelope into new areas.

I have a few RGB led strips laying around too. I will create a circuit on my breadboard and see if I can get them to fire. I wanted to do this anyway to run some of my Christmas lights with the Kasina!

My guess is that the polarity is opposite for left and right, to allow for 6 signals (R+,G+,B+ and R-,G-,B-) Haven't verified that, though...

When will the open eyed ganzfield light frames be available for the kasina ? I think there would be a lot of interest in them!

Hint: half the LEDs point one way and half the other :)

If you have ever been involved in a product release cycle then I would say that the 'if' and the 'how' stages are where we are... then comes the 'how much'... then finally it would worth talking about a 'when'. 'If' looks likely, 'how' is in progress..

Andy is right: the right side GanzFrame LEDs are reversed polarity from the left, and the polarity is switching at around 700 Hz. This is how we can have independent control of the left and right eye colors, frequencies, etc.

-Robert

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Originally Posted by Andy

My guess is that the polarity is opposite for left and right, to allow for 6 signals (R+,G+,B+ and R-,G-,B-) Haven't verified that, though...

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