can't upload session to Procyon

Hi,
I found some user .prw sessions I want to upload to my Procyon machine but I am having no luck.

The editor (currently rev 2.2.05 though I tried 2.3 as well) shows I'm connected at 115,200 baud in DL2 mode to my Rev 2 machine, but nothing shows up in the editor when I click on 'Session Tools' then 'Upload Session to Procyon'. There is nothing appearing on screen to let me know anything is proceeding.

Looking at the editor instructions it says that I should get a little requester offering options such as 'append' or 'overwrite' etc. I guess this should appear on screen in the same place as when I click on 'help' and it shows the editor version etc? Needless to say nothing shows, though there is some CPU activity when I first click on 'Upload session to Procyon'.

The editor shows I'm connected properly to the Procyon but apart from 'help' nothing else seems to work - even the log file. Nothing under the 'Session Tools' tab works at all.

I tried reinstalling the editor and driver, and also tried the later editor, but no difference. Could it be my firewall - though the editor seems to be connected properly?

Hello Jules, and welcome!

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Originally Posted by Jules

The editor (currently rev 2.2.05 though I tried 2.3 as well) shows I'm connected at 115,200 baud in DL2 mode to my Rev 2 machine, but nothing shows up in the editor when I click on 'Session Tools' then 'Upload Session to Procyon'. There is nothing appearing on screen to let me know anything is proceeding.

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Are you getting a green indicator in the upper left of the editor window with a "Port xx" with a number underneath it? (xx will be some number)

If you click on "Run Segments" does the loaded session start running on the connected Procyon?

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I tried reinstalling the editor and driver, and also tried the later editor, but no difference. Could it be my firewall - though the editor seems to be connected properly?

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Let's first see if there's communication between the editor and the Procyon. What does the Help/About window show?

Hi Andy,

Thanks for the reply.

Yes, it shows green and the baud rate is 115,200. Also, the segment plays OK...

The help/about window shows:

Windows Editor version 2.2.05

OS version 2.1.60

Core version 1.5.00

Jules

Ok, so they seem to be communicating.

To upload a session to the Procyon, you need to choose File/Open Session File. You can test it by choosing Utilities/Run Entire Session. If it looks ok, then choose Session Tools/Upload Session to Procyon.

I think the step you missed was the File/Open Session File.

Hi Andy,

No that isn't it. I wish it was as simple as that. I open the session file, then try and upload it to the Procyon. The first time I try it, I get a message saying something like:

'Procyon Programming Error. Operation aborted'.

This seems to happen the first time I try and upload a .prw after booting up the computer. Further attempts just seem to do nothing, except consume 95-99% CPU for a couple of minutes. This happens no matter which .prw file I try, that all come from your site. I can also run the entire session successfully through the editor which controls the Procyon correctly, so I doubt the sessions are corrupted.

Sometimes too, if I flick through the options in the drop down menus, the correct dialogue appears (to append or overwrite etc) briefly, but never long enough for anything constructive to happen.

Just as a precaution, I also re-installed the Procyon OS (2.1.60) but this made no difference. I think the problem lies with the editor, though why I can update the OS through it, but can't upload a .prw beats me...


Jules

Hi again,

I tried installing the Procyon software on my laptop, and hey presto! It works! I can now upload sessions to my Procyon at will.

However, I didn't really want to use my laptop for this as it's overloaded with stuff and is getting quite slow.

So, if possible, I'd still like to work this issue out on my main PC. It might be of benefit to others as well.

Jules

Ok, so it's something to do with that computer. What version of Windows are you running on the 2 machines?
(WinXP/Vista/7) and what CPU type (x86 - 32bit or x64 - 64bit)?

Are you using the driver from this site, (6.3a)?

What type of Procyon do you have (Rev1/Rev2/Rev3)?

Hi Andy,

Thanks for your reply. Both my laptop and main PC are using XP SP3, and both are x86 32 bit, though the PC is a Celeron and the laptop is a Pentium. The driver is the same in both cases, which is the one provided in the installer, which from memory is v5.5xxx.

The Procyon I have is a Rev2 unit.

Jules

Ok. Thanks for that information.

Let's try slowing down the data on the computer that's having an issue.
Do you know how to get into Device Manager on your computer? If not, let me know.
With the Procyon connected to the PC and powered on, go into Device Manager and find the COM port device driver entry for the Procyon. Open the Properties for that driver and select the "Port Settings Tab". Click "Advanced..." and lower the Receive and Transmit Buffers all the way down.

Let me know if that works or if you need additional help to find these settings.

Hi Andy,

I set the buffers at lowest settings and it worked. So I advanced the settings until it no longer worked, then backed them off a full notch to give a little headroom.

I'm surprised however, as my PC which is the newer machine is the one that needed this correction, and my old laptop works just fine at the standard settings!

Needless to say, it didn't make a lot of difference to the upload speed as the files are small to begin with.

Thanks for the info :-) I hope others will find it useful too.

Jules

Hey Jules;

Glad you got it working! The old Proteus editor used to have adjustments right in the Editor, but so far you're the first person that's ever needed it with the Procyon!

It makes sense that the faster computer was the one with the issue, as the problem is the computer sending the data a little TOO fast to the Procyon. The older computer was likely slow enough. As I say, it's a rare problem as my new VERY fast PC has no problems. Likely differences in how the USB port drivers work on different machines.

In the end, good information should anyone else run into this problem.

BTW - how many "clicks" back from max did you have to go? Was it only the transmit buffer that needed to be backed off?

Hi Andy,

I wasn't too interested in the finesse of the adjustments, so I set both transmit and receive sliders the same. On my computer, I needed to set them one step above the minimum. The sliders will accept intermediate values, but I chose to follow the markers. The next marker up caused it to fail again, so somewhere in between is probably the real max.

I might play around with it some more to get max speed, but hey, with such small files, there isn't much point, just so long as it works!

Thanks again for solving this!

Jules

Well, I used the Procyon Editor and it seemed to upload the sessions OK, the port was open and I tested the segments and they were fine (the goggles went on etc.)... But when I turned on the Procyon (separately, that is to say away from the computer) I cannot find them! I went through all the numbers and it does from 000 to 049 and the new sessions are not there?
Should I try my netbook? It is cleaner than this computer because I don't use it too much.
Thanks for any help!

How did you go about uploading the session to the Procyon?
Did you select "Session Tools" and then "Upload Session to Procyon"?

When you do that, you'll get a dialog that comes up that asks if you want to append or overwrite the sessions in the Procyon. If you append it, the new session will be #50. If you overwrite, the new session will be #1 and it will be the only session on the Procyon.

Thanks for the reply. I didn't get any dialog at all... And it automatically goes to dL2 when I try to upload. I thought it should be dL1 for computers?
Anyway, in Device Manager the settings for that port are:
Bits per second: 9600 (nothing happened after lowering it)
Data Bits: 8 (again nothing changed after lowering it)
Parity: None
Stop Bits: 1
Flow Control: None.

Is something wrong with these settings? I don't know what some of them are at all...

Thanks!

Don't worry about the port. The program will tell you if you are not connected, and since as you say clicking "run segments" shows activity on the Procyon, you must be connected and communicating properly.

Are you using "Session Tools" and then "Upload Session to Procyon"?

Yes, that's what I am doing. And I now also got the message previously mentioned in this thread: 'Procyon programming Error. Operation aborted'. This is before it automatically switched to dL2. For some reason it didn't appear the first time I tried.
I tried my netbook and it is the same.
Thanks again for your help!

Close and open the port and see if that fixes the problem.

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Close and open the port and see if that fixes the problem.

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THANK YOU! That fixed the problem! :)

Cool!
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