Experience with Kasina and open questions

Hi,
I bought my Kasina half a year ago and am really pleased.
however I only used it under the influence of Ketamin or Psilocin. Both is amazing and allows experiences that go way beyond the effects without it.

I am however still struggleing to use it ?regulary?. The programs in the download section are without any further information and things like meditation programs confuse me - am I supposed to meditate while doing it or afterwards?

Thanks for your answer :)

When I meditate with the Kasina I usually just focus on slow regular breathing and watching/listening (without actively thinking).