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    USr mode is a completely manual mode. There are no programs for it. While in this mode when you press play then lights flicker at the frequency you see on the display and you can adjust them manually. That is what the bottom button does. It increases the frequency. The display is showing the frequency of the flashing lights (and sound). The numbers on the screen are the frequency. Pretty cool, huh?

    Pushing the bottom button makes the frequency go higher. Holding the bottom button and pressing the top button makes the frequency go lower. It is best the hold the bottom button as mentioned while you press the top one (holding it too). You should see the frequency on the display getting lower.

    Let me know if it works for you.
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    ah right. I have managed to get it down to 0.5 so I take it that's sub delta that would be good for pain relief etc?
    but do I just plug in to that and wait for entrainment or should I start higher and slow down but that would interrupt the whole thing.

    Am I advised to maybe find some relaxing music to listen to through the Proteus and wait till my brainwaves respond?

    I can see that its only my lack of understanding that stands in the way of making full use of my machines. As I have said many times, I have cognitive impairment from fibro which often makes simple things complicated. Well that's my excuse and I am sticking to it!

    BTW on the Kasina, I has mentioned I wanted longer sessions and you said that I could make a play list from sessions from the same category...so, say i want to get more stage 4 sleep to generate growth hormone etc as it's that level of rest I am missing with my sleep apnoea.
    Should I just play the sessions from Trance back to back?
    Will that inhibit 'habituation' from occurring?

    Basically what I want to do is try to compensate for the lack of deep rest that is causing or exacerbating the symptoms of my fibro/ chronic fatigue.

    Interestingly, I was reading a book last night by a UK specialist in pain and fibro who said that ordinary healthy people can manifest the symptoms of fibro simply by having their sleep disturbed routinely so that the body is never having a chance to secrete the essential hormones etc.
    You probably knew all that already but some people may be interested.
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    Ideally you would want to start higher and go down. However, the interface doesn't make this workable at all. I mean it does but you can't 'step down' like you can 'step up'. Down travels a long way and gets faster the longer you hold it. By just pressing the up button you can 'step' by 0.1hz which is workable. Try it out with down and you will see what I mean. In closed eyes with down you don't really know what is going on.

    So probably the best thing is to play another short relaxation session in the Pxx mode like Good Night for instance which takes you down to Delta frequencies over 18 minutes. Then (if you are still awake ) switch to the USr mode (you will want to set the frequency that you want to go to beforehand like say 0.2hz) then play that frequency for awhile.

    You are not likely to entrain brainwaves to delta frequencies exactly. It is more of a soothing wash, especially if you synchronize breathing.

    Yes the Kasina can play a whole folder back to back.

    Have you tried the Sleep Cycle program I mentioned? It has many of the elements that you want already. I am curious on how you respond to it.
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    No, I have not tried the sleep session yet. I tried to read the info and my brain seized up lol That's what happens with overload. I will have to go back stage by stage and read up again how to put those sessions into my Kasina but at the moment too exhausted to manage anything other than very simple stuff.
    I look forward to trying it out when I am more refreshed. many thanks for answering all my questions
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    Sleep Cycle is already on the Kasina in the AudioStrobe folder. Don't worry about descriptions. Just try out the session.

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    oops! silly me
    Thanks again. Will give it a go tonight and report back.
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    Ok tried the Sleep Cycle this afternoon to try to give it my full attention.
    I loved it and feel it will be very valuable to me. The intro was fascinating and enjoyed toggling the colours about. My only thoughts were which to stay with as each had its own appeal. Loved the whispering which added another dimension and found I was in altered state very quickly. I thought I stayed with the sub delta till the end but probably went in and out. I am sure that at the end of a day I would have drifted off very early.
    I'm Going to try to experience all the progs and write my own notes for my own refs as I am sure I have not experienced half of them yet.
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    Glad you benefited from the session. I find that the white noise at the end is really a primer to go to sleep because it is such a blank slate.

    It would be wonderful to post some session notes. I am quite interested in your impressions and favorites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonchild View Post
    ah right. I have managed to get it down to 0.5 so I take it that's sub delta that would be good for pain relief etc?
    but do I just plug in to that and wait for entrainment or should I start higher and slow down but that would interrupt the whole thing.

    Am I advised to maybe find some relaxing music to listen to through the Proteus and wait till my brainwaves respond?

    I can see that its only my lack of understanding that stands in the way of making full use of my machines. As I have said many times, I have cognitive impairment from fibro which often makes simple things complicated. Well that's my excuse and I am sticking to it!

    BTW on the Kasina, I has mentioned I wanted longer sessions and you said that I could make a play list from sessions from the same category...so, say i want to get more stage 4 sleep to generate growth hormone etc as it's that level of rest I am missing with my sleep apnoea.
    Should I just play the sessions from Trance back to back?
    Will that inhibit 'habituation' from occurring?

    Basically what I want to do is try to compensate for the lack of deep rest that is causing or exacerbating the symptoms of my fibro/ chronic fatigue.

    Interestingly, I was reading a book last night by a UK specialist in pain and fibro who said that ordinary healthy people can manifest the symptoms of fibro simply by having their sleep disturbed routinely so that the body is never having a chance to secrete the essential hormones etc.
    You probably knew all that already but some people may be interested.

    On another of my light and sound machines in the manual it has sessions for fibromyalgia, Not just the low delta that you mentioned but sessions at 7.83hz as well. So if you haven't tried then maybe uploading a 7.83hz track to your kasina is also worth looking into, If you can't audiostrobe it then you could use it on colourpulse mode. You would have to google that frequency and see what people say about fibro and using 7.83hz aka schumman resonance and if it has helped them. I love 7.83hz as it is really calming but I cannot tell you directly if it is helpful for your condition but it might help you well as the lower delta frequencies.

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    There's plenty written about Schumann Resonance on the forums, and some sessions are available for download here as well.
    Eg http://www.mindplacesupport.com/foru...0248#post10248


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