Creating a 40hz Gamma session with the KBS Editor

[Jos Bos]

Hi there,

I saw this text on a different forum and I just ordered my first LSM its a Kasina.
However I do not understand a few things the person was talking about, and also I dont know how to adjust the settings of a session of the device. I just watched the tutorial video of the Kasina in which the functions of the Kasina session editor could be seen, so most settings will be easily be programmed. But in practical sense translating the text to actual editing the session is a kind of mystery for me.

However If somebody could translate this text below: And could tell me how many segments this particular session needs to have and which settings I need to adjust and what parameters. That would be very must appreciated

Ramp down into theta over about a 6 minute period.


Then, hold that state for another 5 minutes or so. Then overlay bursts of gamma for a few seconds every 5 minutes or so.


Max session length for practical purposes is about 45 min.


I recommend using the lights to help you into theta and sounds (square wave) for the gamma bursts.


Gamma with lights can look like a solid on light. I use 40 cps gamma generally and can create a tone that is clearly audible for that where the pulsing is clear vs 40 cps light looking like a solid on light.

[JoeV]

Hi there,

I saw this text on a different forum and I just ordered my first LSM its a Kasina.
However I do not understand a few things the person was talking about, and also I dont know how to adjust the settings of a session of the device. I just watched the tutorial video of the Kasina in which the functions of the Kasina session editor could be seen, so most settings will be easily be programmed. But in practical sense translating the text to actual editing the session is a kind of mystery for me.

However If somebody could translate this text below: And could tell me how many segments this particular session needs to have and which settings I need to adjust and what parameters. That would be very must appreciated

Ramp down into theta over about a 6 minute period.


Decrease the Hz frequency into the theta range 7-4 hz over a period of 6 min.

Then, hold that state for another 5 minutes or so. Then overlay bursts of gamma for a few seconds every 5 minutes or so.


Keep the frequency steady for 5 min. Increase into the gamma range for a few seconds.

Max session length for practical purposes is about 45 min.


I recommend using the lights to help you into theta and sounds (square wave) for the gamma bursts.


Modulate the lights to flicker in the theta range, the sound with gamma.

Gamma with lights can look like a solid on light. I use 40 cps gamma generally and can create a tone that is clearly audible for that where the pulsing is clear vs 40 cps light looking like a solid on light.

The mind will blur fast rates to look like solid light. Your computer screen is flashing at 60 Hz. Narrowing the duty cycle of the light flicker helps.

[Jos Bos]

Ok, thanks JoeV The Admin of this forum, Andy helped me out big time
by making a .kbs file and also gave me a few tips on how the KBS program
works, Right now I can adjust the settings and work with the software.
Strangely enough, what the person said about "gamma on lights looks
solid" is not true. When the gamma segment is playing. I see the light
flickering at a high speed. While the sound is also at a high frequency.
Just as the person said it should be. (at least for the sound portion)

My question to you is: Do you think I should modulate the light at
theta while the sound is at gamma? Because I thought that should only
be the case when the lights of the gamma segment look solid. Or is the
unification of both frequencies at the same exact timestamp. Necessary
for introducing the theta-gamma-sync brainwave state.

And if that is the case do you know how I can adjust the settings in
such a way. That I have the lights at theta (4,5Hz) and the sound at
gamma (40Hz)

So to clarify what happening now is: I have the ramp down 6 minutes
from 13Hz to 4,5Hz sound (sine) & lights (sine), holding 4,5Hz for 6
minutes sound (sine) & lights (sine), then the gamma segment. 40Hz
sound (square) & lights (sine) and then again 6 minutes at 4,5Hz sound
(sine) & lights (sine) and so forth.

Also when the gamma segments start playing I get startled by the
sudden shift in frequency. I was thinking to adjust the volume setting
of the gamma segment. I already placed a 7 second 4,5Hz sound (sine) &
lights (sine) at 100 L&R pitch. Just as an early warning to the sudden
peak of gamma.
All other segments are on the normal setting of 150 L&R
Do you suspect that the sudden shock would pull me out of theta and
place me in alpha or beta? If it does it would make sense though.

Right now I am using two slightly different variations in which after
the gamma peaks, there is a ramp up 6 minutes from 4,5Hz to 13Hz
following with a direct 6 minutes ramp down from 13Hz to 4,5Hz.
And I have a variation in which there is a holding of 6 minutes at 13Hz
between the two 13Hz ramps.
both lasting around 1:47.00 and 2:12:00

The reason I inserted the beta frequency is that I had read that it
causes fractionation, basically deepening the theta state

Session Chart of TGS Peak Beta
Beta Peak TGS.png

Session Chart of 6 Beta TGS
6 Beta TGS.png

[JoeV]

Ok, thanks JoeV The Admin of this forum, Andy helped me out big time
by making a .kbs file and also gave me a few tips on how the KBS program
works, Right now I can adjust the settings and work with the software.
Strangely enough, what the person said about "gamma on lights looks
solid" is not true. When the gamma segment is playing. I see the light
flickering at a high speed. While the sound is also at a high frequency.
Just as the person said it should be. (at least for the sound portion)

That person was probably using Audiostrobe, which is not as robust as Spectrastrobe. I would recommend checking out the post I made about using a DAW to create sessions. It is really easier to do complex sessions, and there is so much more you can do with it. Only drawback is you need a separate player to use with the Limina

My question to you is: Do you think I should modulate the light at
theta while the sound is at gamma? Because I thought that should only
be the case when the lights of the gamma segment look solid. Or is the
unification of both frequencies at the same exact timestamp. Necessary
for introducing the theta-gamma-sync brainwave state.

Gamma shows up on an EEG as “bursts” every now and then all over the brain. There is still a lot to discover about gamma. Light stimulation is stronger than sound because it affects a larger portion of the brain. Have fun and experiment what works best for you!

And if that is the case do you know how I can adjust the settings in
such a way. That I have the lights at theta (4,5Hz) and the sound at
gamma (40Hz)

I can tell you how to do it in a DAW, regrettably, I don’t have much experience with the KBS editor

So to clarify what happening now is: I have the ramp down 6 minutes
from 13Hz to 4,5Hz sound (sine) & lights (sine), holding 4,5Hz for 6
minutes sound (sine) & lights (sine), then the gamma segment. 40Hz
sound (square) & lights (sine) and then again 6 minutes at 4,5Hz sound
(sine) & lights (sine) and so forth.

The 6 min “rule” is based on findings that it takes the brain around 6 min to be entrained to a frequency. The general rule of thumb for ramps is 1 Hz for each minute up or down. These are just guidelines and not hard fast rules. Myself, I would use a longer ramp from 13 Hz down to 4.5 Hz, at least for the first time. To get into a theta state, you must first pass through alpha

Also when the gamma segments start playing I get startled by the
sudden shift in frequency. I was thinking to adjust the volume setting
of the gamma segment. I already placed a 7 second 4,5Hz sound (sine) &
lights (sine) at 100 L&R pitch. Just as an early warning to the sudden
peak of gamma.
All other segments are on the normal setting of 150 L&R
Do you suspect that the sudden shock would pull me out of theta and
place me in alpha or beta? If it does it would make sense though.

Sometimes this is a good thing deep into a session to keep you from falling asleep. Adjust the volume/brightness and use a fade in and out so it is not startling. Gamma is very stimulating, and can bring you out of theta, so keep it brief during theta. Add more gamma at the end of the session to wake you up.

Right now I am using two slightly different variations in which after
the gamma peaks, there is a ramp up 6 minutes from 4,5Hz to 13Hz
following with a direct 6 minutes ramp down from 13Hz to 4,5Hz.
And I have a variation in which there is a holding of 6 minutes at 13Hz
between the two 13Hz ramps.
both lasting around 1:47.00 and 2:12:00

The reason I inserted the beta frequency is that I had read that it
causes fractionation, basically deepening the theta state

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