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    Default How to use the Kasina for anxiety

    Hi Everyone,
    Thankyou for adding me to this friendly forum. I hope I have posted this in the right section, I'm completely new to the forum world so wasn't sure where to put this post!
    I have had my Kasina for 2 years and used it for a while when I first had it, but then put it away and sort of forgot about it. Recently I've been going through a period of horrible anxiety which is really affecting my life and I remembered my Kasina and have been using it for the last few days in the hope that it will help with my sleep and stress levels. So my questions are:
    Which are the programmes to use for anxiety and which should I avoid? I've gathered from information here in the forum, that high frequency programmes may exacerbate the anxiety and having looked at the different programmes in the user manual, it doesn't give the frequencies on all the programmes and I just want to be sure before I experiment further.
    So far, I have used some of the meditate, trance and night voyage programmes, some have made me feel relaxed and others a little agitated. Am I to assume that if it makes me feel relaxed then Proceed and if I feel agitated, try another?
    With regards to the goggles, I have the Ganzfield ones and I am wondering whether for anxiety it is better to use the color organ settings or the spectrstr or is it simply whatever makes me feel more relaxed each time I use the Kasina?
    I know this isn't going to be an instant fix, the brain needs to be rebooted so to speak and already I am feeling some benefits but what would be the recommended number of sessions per day (or hours of use) and are there any side effects of overuse? I am on holiday this week so have the opportunity to use it as much as necessary, but again I dont want to overdo it, so some guideline on useage would be helpful.
    Is it a case of the more use the quicker the results - if so I'm up for that!
    Finally, I also have a CES device called an alpha stim, which puts the brain into an alpha state, the device delivers a microcurrent via earclips, and I was wondering if anyone else knows about this device and if so would it be a good idea to use it at the same time as the Kasina or to do separate sessions.
    Many thank in advance to anyone who takes the time to read this and offer advice. There are some very knowledgeable people here in the forum and I look forward to learning more about this fantastic device.
    Have a great day and thanks again
    Last edited by ChasJedd; 10-09-2017 at 12:57 PM.

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    Default Re: How to use the Kasina for anxiety

    Hello and welcome!

    Your questions are common ones that new users have. A little searching and reading on the forum will be very beneficial for you. I'll help you with a few links to get you started:

    http://mindplacesupport.com/forum/sh...iety-programme
    http://mindplacesupport.com/forum/sh...cy-for-anxiety
    http://mindplacesupport.com/forum/sh...xiety-Programs
    http://mindplacesupport.com/forum/sh...on-and-Anxiety

    All of these links were found further down this page in a section called "Similar Threads". Some are referring to other MindPlace products, but the methodolgy and frequencies apply to all MP devices. Hopefully this information is helpful in your quest!
    -Andy.

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    Thank you Andy, for taking the time to reply to my post. I noticed on the proteus post, there is a link to a page which details the exact range of frequencies for each programme but I cant find the same information for the Kasina programmes, in the instruction manual - (session list) only some of the programmes state the range of frequencies for example in the mind art list, there is no information on frequencies, and it would be helpful to know the ranges of all the programmes to avoid ones which may be overstimulating.
    I have seen references to adding other sessions to my Kasina and I wondered also if you would be kind enough to direct me to where to access these additional sessions but most importantly instructions how to down load them on to the device, I'm not very Tecchy I'm afraid and I have a MacBook Pro so if there are any instructions or even videos on how to extract the session and add them to my device, I'd be so grateful.
    Some general feedback, So far, I've been using my Kasina every day this week and can report that I do feel I am making progress and am finding it easier to "tune in" to the sessions and relax, but it does take practise, the monkey mind still wants to take over at times!
    Thanks again for your help Andy

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChasJedd View Post
    Thank you Andy, for taking the time to reply to my post. I noticed on the proteus post, there is a link to a page which details the exact range of frequencies for each programme but I cant find the same information for the Kasina programmes, in the instruction manual - (session list) only some of the programmes state the range of frequencies for example in the mind art list, there is no information on frequencies, and it would be helpful to know the ranges of all the programmes to avoid ones which may be overstimulating.
    The manual has most of the frequencies listed for the various SS sessions and KBS sessions. More detail on the KBS (Sirius) sessions can be found here.

    [quote]I have seen references to adding other sessions to my Kasina and I wondered also if you would be kind enough to direct me to where to access these additional sessions but most importantly instructions how to down load them on to the device, I'm not very Tecchy I'm afraid and I have a MacBook Pro so if there are any instructions or even videos on how to extract the session and add them to my device, I'd be so grateful.
    Additional Kasina sessions are available on the Session forum here, on SoundCloud here, and at mindplace.com here.
    To download sessions into your Kasina is pretty easy using the Kasina Basic Editor.
    Here are some links to YouTube videos on how to use the Editor.

    Some general feedback, So far, I've been using my Kasina every day this week and can report that I do feel I am making progress and am finding it easier to "tune in" to the sessions and relax, but it does take practise, the monkey mind still wants to take over at times!
    Thanks again for your help Andy
    You're very welcome, and keep on working with the Kasina. You'll get better results as you use it more. You cannot "over use" it.
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    Default Re: How to use the Kasina for anxiety

    Hello,

    I would also like to see the list of all frequencies contained in each KASINA session.

    In this thread, I only see the Sirius listing.

    Could you copy the information link of the frequencies that each session of the Kasina has?

    Thank you very much

    M.
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    The manual has most of the Kasina Spectrastrobe session frequencies.
    -Andy.

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    Default Re: How to use the Kasina for anxiety

    Yes. But I would like to know the frequencies that there aren't here... because I don't know if someone of this sessions can relax me or excited me.

    I don't see the frequencies in this cases:

    Within Meditate:
    everglade


    Within Mind Art:
    A Starlight Night
    Astroturf
    Cascade
    Ecosync
    Patternity
    Phobos
    Sanguine
    Soliton
    Space trace
    Spectra
    stagecraft
    Trainsport
    Weaver
    Yonder


    Within Night Voyage:
    Yonder
    Dream
    Rest


    Within Rejuvenate:
    Biomakers
    Eddies
    Alphabet


    Within trance:
    Bowlscape
    Zodiac



    Thank you very much,
    M.

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    Mi7 thank you! that is exactly the reason I was asking and you have kindly taken the time to list the sessions where the frequencies are not given.
    I am aware that higher frequencies can overstimulate, and some (e.g) alpha sedate so the reason for asking is to avoid the non alpha sessions as my main aim is to reduce anxiety.
    Thank you Andy for your help so far, it's much appreciated and if you could help us with the above it would be awesome.
    In the last week I have sampled many of the sessions and I really like the mind art ones but am nervous about listening to them as I don't know if they are alpha or not!
    Many thanks in advance to anyone who can help
    ChasJedd

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    Default Re: How to use the Kasina for anxiety

    Thanks again Andy for the help re the editor and adding sessions and for the Sirius frequencies, however as member Mi7 has also stated, many of the sessions in the Kasina manual do not actually state the frequencies, just a description of the sessions, Mi7 has listed the sessions where there is no frequency info given.
    Kind regards
    ChasJedd

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    Default Re: How to use the Kasina for anxiety

    I'm not sure if I can find information on the sessions that don't have specific frequencies listed, but it's pretty simple to pick appropriate sessions.

    Meditate sessions are for meditation so it will be relaxing and help concentration.

    Mind Art sessions are just for fun, for distraction and entertainment.

    Night Voyage sessions are to help you relax and sleep.

    Rejuvenate sessions are to heal and energize.

    Trance sessions are for distraction.

    Don't get too hung up on specific frequencies. Just choose sessions from the category you are interested in and try each of them out. Different sessions achieve the results in different ways so each person is different in what works well for them, what has the sounds that work best and are most enjoyable, so try them all and make note of the best ones FOR YOU.
    -Andy.

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