How Our Mind Works

How Our Mind Works


v 95% of our brain is run by the subconscious (s/c) which operates like a computer program and does exactly what it’s programmed to do. Some of these programs came with our body. Programs such as running the circulatory system, digestive system, biochemistry etc. These programs are set to operate at their default settings (the programs we inherit from our parent’s chromosomes, DNA, or while in the uterus). These programs are not always perfect and sometimes something happens during production (of our body) and we are born with some deficiencies – which we can correct or learn to compensate for.

v The s/c does not think, or reason on it’s own (but it does process and store information). It does not have an opinion or emotion (though it uses emotion). The conscious mind does. It is the job of the conscious mind to protect the s/c from false impressions. It doesn’t always do a great job, especially if the conscious mind has on a negative filter. The s/c mind is like a computer – ready for programming.

v Even If you give the s/c the wrong information, it will accept it as true. It will sift through your memories, other beliefs, experiences and knowledge for supporting evidence and then create a belief. The problem is that memory is notoriously inaccurate and perspective clouds knowledge. Information can get distorted according to perspective and because perspective is so bendable, it’s easy to find supporting evidence for anything.

v The mind likes complete information and will fill in what’s missing to make sense of information.

v Perspective is controlled by the conscious mind. We can choose how we want to interpret something and what ever we tell ourselves the meaning is – the s/c records it as fact.

v Problems in our programs happen because our conscious mind is not always right and false information gets fed into our s/c. We can make changes and repairs to the s/c programs. It begins with recognizing that errors do occur in the programs and working to make changes.

v How do you know if there is an error in one of your programs? If there is something stopping you from achieving a happy and joyous life. If you do not feel at peace with yourself and others. If you have problems in many of your relationships. If how you are acting, responding, thinking or behaving is not getting you the results you want – then there is likely to be a glitch (a thought virus) in one of your programs.

v The s/c does not use words, it may use bodily sensations, symptoms or body language to let us know about our out-of-date processes. Remember that it has control over our biochemistry and can therefore invoke emotions (as a tool) to get what it wants – which is bio-balance. The language of the s/c mind is pictures, feelings, metaphors, symbolism and symptoms.

v The s/c is programmed for survival. It gathers all information relating to our experiences and computes it to create a system that will protect us in the future. Problems begin when methods of protection are not regularly updated to include the abilities we learn as we grow.

v Sometimes the s/c gets confused about what is required for survival – because of what we tell it and associations we make to unhealthy things under the guise of “need”. This is how addictions occur. We install a belief that we need that substance or else we can’t cope (and our s/c then runs the if we can’t cope then we will not survive…better make sure the person takes the substance).

v It is the emotion stored in the s/c that causes problems, emotion that is unresolved and is still active although out of date. Learning about these emotions, and freeing them from their time warp, is an integral part of hypnotherapy.

v The s/c can not comprehend negative attitudes. It does not understand “not” so it will not process it. In order to not do something, the mind has to do it first in order to know what it is not to do.

v Parental influences are a main factor in causing our initial belief systems. We can maintain those belief systems or change them.

v Relationship difficulties, panic attacks, blushing, bowel problems, public speaking and performance anxiety all focus on the need for control.

v Whatever you pay attention to, you always find more.

v A suggestion cannot impose itself on the s/c mind against the will of the conscious mind. Your conscious mind has the power to reject the suggestion.

Sources:

Hypnotic Language by John Burton, EdD & Bob G. Bodenhamer, DMin
The Power of Your Subconscious Mind by Joseph Murphy PhD
Understanding Hypnosis by Dr. Brian Roet

The Conscious and Unconscious


The following is an explanation of the differences between the conscious and unconscious mind. After you read this, you?ll have a better understanding of the unconscious and why, in my work, I choose to work with both.

The conscious mind is only aware of 7 + or ? bits of information at a time.
The unconscious mind is aware of everything else.

The conscious mind is sequential. It likes logical order.
The unconscious mind processes simultaneously. It multitasks.

The conscious mind is logical. It likes things to make sense ? have a reason.
The unconscious mind is intuitive and can make associations of information easily.

The conscious mind is linear thinking. It thinks in terms of cause-effect.
The unconscious mind makes associations and connections between many thoughts, ideas and feelings.

The conscious mind seeks answers to ?why??
The unconscious mind knows why.

The conscious mind does your intellectual thinking. Is responsible for your self-talk.
Your unconscious mind does your perceiving and feeling.

Your conscious mind is associated with the waking, thinking state.
The unconscious mind is associated with the dreaming (including day dreaming), reflecting, meditating and sleeping state.

The conscious can voluntarily move parts of your body.
The unconscious can involuntarily move parts of your body.

Your conscious mind is only aware of the now.
Your unconscious mind is unlimited in time and space. It holds all your memories and future constructs.

The conscious mind seeks understanding of problems and reasons that if it understands them, it can make them go away.
Your unconscious mind decides what it will do about it. It can forget (amnesia), distort (make false associations) or break connections (get over it).

The conscious mind is deliberate.
The unconscious mind is automatic.

The conscious mind is verbal (including self-talk).
The unconscious mind is nonverbal (feeling).

The conscious mind is analytical.
The unconscious mind is literal.

The conscious mind is the place of cognitive learnings and understandings.
The unconscious mind is the place of experiential learnings.

Your conscious mind uses the intellect to come up with logical solutions for problems.
Your unconscious mind can access internal resources from memories of experiences, linking them all together - creating a resourceful state.

Your conscious mind will tell you when your right because the facts line up.
Your unconscious mind will tell you when you are right because it will feel right.

Your conscious mind has limited focus.
Your unconscious mind has unlimited focus.



References:

Descriptions adapted from: Training Trances: Multi-Level Communication In Therapy and Training by John Overdurf & Julie Silverthorn, Metamorphous Press: Oregon, 1994, pg. 66

Things to Know about Yourself and Others

1. People do what works, and that is usually something that is easiest and immediate to implement. Unfortunately it’s not always something that is beneficial in the long run. For example: getting drunk when you get stressed. You are looking to avoid the stress feeling and getting drunk is easy and immediate. It isn’t anything that is helpful though, in the long run.


2. People do what’s familiar. People will usually choose the “devil they know” than the unknown path.

3. We teach others how to treat us. If someone gets the response they want from you, they will repeat the method. For example, if your mother gets you to call her by making you feel guilty, then she will continue to try to make you feel guilty to get you to call her.

4. Your mind will create the reality that you are thinking about. It always goes toward and doesn’t understand “away”. That’s why many people tend to get what they don’t want. They create self-fulfilling prophecies.

5. People often feel hurt by another’s actions because of the “perceived” (hurtful) intention.

6. You can be brainwashing yourself by negative self-talk when you are upset. One of the ways brainwashing works is by giving suggestions to someone when they are upset. Another way is repetition. When you are upset and telling yourself negative things, you are implanting those ideas in you mind. Truth is irrelevant to belief.

7. Getting lots of rest builds strength of mind.

8. Prolonged stress can alter your body chemistry bringing on depression, anxiety, irritability. Prolonged stress weakens the Will and makes the individual suggestible.

9. Habits are formed by repetition. Old habits are broken by using new habits. Neuro-pathways are similar to paths in a forest – with frequent use, the become well defined and easy to access. When they are rarely used, the pathway gets fainter and eventually disappears.

10. Learning and change take place in the subconscious mind.

11. Suggestions work best when you are ready for change.

12. Inner strength is self-reinforcing.

13. Emotions and thoughts have a profound affect on your brain chemistry (neuro-chemical responses).

14. Denial occurs when you lie to yourself. You lie to yourself when you ignore your inner voice of truth and pretend that we don’t hurt our bodies and minds with destructive behaviors and habits. Denial – keeping family secrets and turning a blind eye to abuse (animal abuse, elder abuse, spousal abuse, child abuse, self abuse etc.). Ignoring unpleasant things that we could do something about.

15. Self-awareness opens the door to change and growth. Becoming aware of your thoughts is a good start. Pay attention to the tone of voice you use with yourself. Is it kind, wise, loving or scolding, criticizing and nagging? What specifically are you saying to yourself. (Write it down and bring to session.)

16. Change all negative thoughts to positive thoughts immediately. Repetitive negative thoughts are self-hypnotic …so are positive thoughts.

17. Boredom is conducive to destructive thought patterns. People who have nothing better to do begin to obsess about themselves, usually in a negative way. Boredom is a chosen state of mind, you could just as easily choose to occupy yourself with a variety of enjoyable and/or productive activities.

18. Bored people are boring – they are busy waiting for someone else to entertain them. They are refusing to accept responsibility for creating their own hell.

19. It takes two weeks to permanently change a behavior.

Great posts, Marisa!

I've spent a great deal of time pondering the implications of much of this on our 'free will'.

Given that our conscious is always acting somewhat after the event, that is to say, working only with material the sub-conscious has already had a go at, it could be said that the only free will we have is to decide what we think about what we've just done.

Retraining the subconscious to deal with things differently gives us some possibility of changing future outcomes, but it is only after the new 'program' has been tried that we will know if it leads to the hoped-for results.

Our 'animal' lives in the now, our 'sentience' is a master of hindsight.

Cheers,
Craig

Hi Marisa and CraigT,

Thanks for the posts:) Great info and presented in an very understanable way.:eusa_dance:

Charles M

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Great posts, Marisa!

I've spent a great deal of time pondering the implications of much of this on our 'free will'.

Given that our conscious is always acting somewhat after the event, that is to say, working only with material the sub-conscious has already had a go at, it could be said that the only free will we have is to decide what we think about what we've just done.

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Yes, no and sort of. Yes, everything that we become conscious of (aware of) likely has passed through the u/c (which brings up any associated data).

I disagree with you about free will. IMHO, Free will is our conscious choice on how to act or react. Our conscious mind decides what information is important and the subconscious takes that information and processes it.

So - for example - Let's say you get bit by a dog. Your u/c processes the association of pain and fear with dog. The next time you see a dog, your u/c brings up the "dog program" and you will likely feel fear. Whether you run away screaming from the dog or stay and work through the fear is a conscious decision.

Your u/c may tell you to beat someone over the head because they annoy you. Your conscious mind (and free will) can deny that impulse. It's only when we think we do not have control and we have to go along with what pops into our minds that we get into big, big trouble.

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Retraining the subconscious to deal with things differently gives us some possibility of changing future outcomes, but it is only after the new 'program' has been tried that we will know if it leads to the hoped-for results.

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I agree. I also think that it's important to understand the power of the conscious mind and what can be done with that because what the conscious mind allows in to the u/c also determines what we will believe. The u/c takes that information the conscious gives it as truth and it then will create a "program" that supports that truth.

The "now" is what we perceive it to be.

M.

Would you like to have some fun with this subject?

Before I elaborate on my views, I'd like you to do an experiment.

Throughout the day, as soon as you complete a task, come to a complete stop - motionless. Do not move again until you have a fully formed "I will..." statement in the foremost of your consciousness.

Once you have this statement fully formed, execute it.

Take careful note of everything you decided to do, and what you have done.

Enjoy your day!

Cheers,
Craig

Sounds Thelemic. :icon_wink:
M.

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Sounds Thelemic. :icon_wink:
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Mmmmyeah - a bit of that, a bit of Kant, a bit of Buddhism, a bit of physics and probably some bits from sources I've forgotten about.

Let me know when you've done the exercise. More shall be revealed :D

Have done the exersise. Started with very specific Shall Experience. Then progressed to more generalized Shall Experience. Forgot about it totally mid day then stared again as above.

The whole thing seemed abit strange. Whats next from the bag of tricks:)

Allrighty then...

In between the decision to do a thing, the formation of the "I will..." statement, a large number of things took place that may or may not have been related to the actual execution of the "will". Most of those things required no conscious thought whatsoever, you just did them. Most of them had the potential to divert you from the "will", or had the potential to fail, thereby preventing completion of the "will" and setting you on a completely different course. "I will..." is nothing more than the expression of a strongly held hope for the future.

Take for example, "I will have a cup of tea." Skipping straight to where you're sitting down with a fresh, steaming cup of tea on the table in front of you... You momentarily think about the weather. Next thing you know there's a cup of your tea in your hand and hot liquid going down your throat. At no time did you think "I will reach out, I will take hold of the cup, carefully adjusting pressure and balance to ensure that I don't drop the cup or spill the liquid, I will slightly open my mouth, I will test the temperature of the tea, I will tillt the cup and allow fluid to enter my mouth, I will swallow, I will go 'aaah'.

All of that was accomplished by your trained subconscious. You might at this point savour the flavour in your mouth and be consciously aware that you successfully swallowed a mouthful of tea. Your conscious may congratulate you on a job well done.

In an ordinary day we go from doing one thing to another with almost no thought whatsoever. We may have some vague "I will..." lurking somewhere, something like, "I will do my day's work and come home." but everything in between is largely a mindless blur, interspersed with brief periods of concentration on a specific task.

Moving on to the next level at which our conscious is oblivious to our activity, we have the matter of small scale timing. Everything we know about our environment is historic data. The most recent real-time data we have is about the state of the tip of our nose, being that it has the shortest light path to our eyes, which are our fastest sense, being most closely integrated to the brain. The light from the tip of our nose takes a few nanoseconds to reach our retina. Everything else takes much longer. Sense of touch and hearing are downright slow, given sound and nerve-electrical impulses are much slower than light. Bear in mind that a few nanoseconds is sufficient for the average computer to perform at least one operation.

What this means is that every action we take requires a command well in advance of it's execution, and we have visual feedback of it's completion well after. When we see our hand grasp the teacup, the message to do so was sent by the brain long ago, and the event was fully completed before we saw that it was so.

Our our subconscious is looking after the real time verification of actions - if no problem arises, our conscious is not informed. Our autonomic system deals with the precision timing without referral to our consciousness unless it is a complex task that we are not familiar with.

Mostly our conscious doesn't have to do much with the information - it'a all mundane stuff. If however, the act contains a sensual, moral or ethical component, then it will do a review of the outcome and decide in some form "It was good" or "It was bad". These post-event judgments are what largely shape our personality, and we have the ability to retrain them. Parents and 'superiors' have a lot of influence in our post-event judgments, as they often take the role of performing them for us, and telling us how we should feel or act.

By modifying our post-event judgements, we modify our future actions. We have absolutely no influence whatsoever on "Now", because it comes and goes in timescales that our conscious can't contemplate.

A final point to all this comes from Kant's 'Categorical Imperative'. The exercise of forming "I will..." statements is very much against our nature. Viturally all of our conscious decisions take the form of "I must...", or "I should...". There is usually consideration of a will other than our own (the boss, the family, the tax collector, etc.) At best we'll form the decision as "I think I'll...", or "I might..." which is our way of saying "I will..., if it's okay with everyone and allowing for the fact that I might fail."

I consider Free Will to be an artificial construct, a construct of an insecure consciousness, that causes more harm than good. A well trained subconscious and autonomic system will do a wonderful job of getting us through life, with the conscious enjoying the ride as a satisfied observer, called in to take control only when new experiences are encountered.

I mostly just get on with life as it presents itself. Sometimes (less than I used to) I waste precious time with regrets and remorse - reviews of the past structured in no way that can help me retrain for the future. Mostly I amuse my conscious with grand plans, dreams and philosophical musings. Occasionally I allow it to set the wheels of manifestation in action, and sometimes something appears in the real world as a result of my own deliberate thought - that is creativity.

Enjoy your day!

Cheers,
Craig

This is the vision that the scientific method of dream interpretation gives us, concerning the content of the human mind:

A wild and violent conscience is inherent in the human psyche. I discovered this when I continued Carl Jung?s neglected research in the dark region of the psyche through dream interpretation. The human being cannot have a balanced behavior, even when one follows the common behavioral patterns of society, which are considered normal.

When we observe abnormal behavior and we try to understand its psychology and how we can eliminate what causes problems, we observe that the wild conscience invades the human part, with several strange ideas, sensations and feelings. This is how the craziness inherent in the primitive conscience starts causing violent behavior in the human side, and the person becomes aggressive.

This invasion can have many forms and appear camouflaged in many guises. The first signs of the invasion are usually the appearance of fear and suspicion. Neurotic patients are afraid of other human beings.

The craziness existent in the anti-conscience is a result of the disorganized development of the conscience since its formation. In order to reach a stage where the conscience would be happy, it would have to work very hard and organize its reactions, but it has not been programmed and it was developed without planning, which is why the result was the formation of chaos.

The unconscious psychic sphere that creates dreams is a completely developed human conscience that reached sanctity and can cure us from the craziness inherent in our psychic spheres. Once cured, we will develop all our capacities, be peaceful and always do what is good for us and our community.

The wild anti-conscience and the wise unconscious are constantly fighting in our psyche. The anti-conscience wants to destroy our human conscience, while the wise unconscious tries to save and develop our human conscience to the fullest, so that we may live free of the horrors of craziness.

Psychological health, balance and wisdom can be found only in goodness, forgiveness and piety. However, the human being doesn?t forgive one?s enemies and is totally cruel before those who need support and help.

The behavior that is considered normal is actually not healthy because we are selfish, and selfishness is pure craziness. The wild anti-conscience manages to influence and invade the conscience using the person?s ego as a channel.

Only when the human being learns how to be sensitive and reasonable will one live peacefully and happily, having a truly balanced and wise behavior.

Amazing post Marissa, I CANT beleive that 95% of our brains is our sub-conscious!

How do you stop your sub-concsious from doing this :BangHead: with traumatic memories of people saying nasty things and the associated fear and insecurity arising with those things?

I've been slipping into trances lately and hearing my self talk. I did that a little when I started my personal growth journey and back then most of what my mind said was nonsense words and made no sense, now its sort of a combination of good and bad things.

I had the experience where I slipped into a deep trance/dream-like state (shortly after using procyon) and there was this angry man saying these nasty things to me and then I kept saying nice things, and he got frustrated and then hit me, he was crying and everything. When I wokeup I knew that was my pain-body. I beleive we carry most of our sub-concsious through lifetimes, that would mean we would carry some of our pain-body through lifetimes and some personal problems, which could exuberate under negative childhood influences.

I had another experience after I did a deep pink colour meditation, as I awoke, I became aware of this amazing female personality within me, she was warm, compassionate, totally unconditional, wise beyond compare, her colour was deep pink, she smelt of rose and she was perfect. She was my inner self. Then I felt a pain in my chest and stomache, my pain-body. It's as though we are split in two. It explains why my left side (feminin side) is always more active than my masculine and even though im male friends always say I have female characteristics, though I wouldnt go as far as saying feminin behaviour. I thought this was interesting and can explain why some females are more aggressive while some males can be more emotional.

Hi Veeaye,

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How do you stop your sub-concsious from doing this :BangHead: with traumatic memories of people saying nasty things and the associated fear and insecurity arising with those things?

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There are a few different things you can do from an NLP perspective. Here's one you can try:

In your mind's eye, picture the people who were saying nasty things to appear on a TV screen. You can make the picture black and white and then turn the sound off. Hit the mute button or turn the dial to off.

Notice how their mouths are moving and there is no sound. Next, think of a funny sound track ... that would go good with the movies .... maybe something like the chipmunks voices or foghorn leghorn (bugs bunny) - add that to the movie and notice how you feel different about what they are saying? You can always change the picture so that the characters become cartoonish or maybe the three stooges (a vision you wouldn't take seriously).

If you change the sound or picture in a memory, it changes the way you feel about the memory. You can make the memory less or more important depending upon how you want to frame it.

Try this method and let me know if or how it works.

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I've been slipping into trances lately and hearing my self talk. I did that a little when I started my personal growth journey and back then most of what my mind said was nonsense words and made no sense, now its sort of a combination of good and bad things.

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Self talk is your thoughts. If you do not give your mind a direction or something to focus on it will tend to drift, sometimes chaotically. If you find your mind drifting to nonsense or troubling thoughts - redirect it to something else (count backward from 100 by 7s, sing a song, think about what you want, make a mental list of things that make you happy etc.). The key is to direct your thoughts in the direction you want them to go in.

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I had the experience where I slipped into a deep trance/dream-like state (shortly after using procyon) and there was this angry man saying these nasty things to me and then I kept saying nice things, and he got frustrated and then hit me, he was crying and everything. When I wokeup I knew that was my pain-body. I beleive we carry most of our sub-concsious through lifetimes, that would mean we would carry some of our pain-body through lifetimes and some personal problems, which could exuberate under negative childhood influences.

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You mean the man was a symbolic representation of emotional pain (or physical pain).

I think this situation involves something that troubles you from this life time. It's possible that the induced theta state (your trance) brought to the surface some repressed memories (and/or feelings) that you experienced as a child.

Even if you were correct and the origin was in another lifetime, the method of dealing with it is still the same. You would want to give the "child" in the memory some resources - perhaps comfort or knowledge from the "present you" that allows the child to feel safe and love. You can edit the movie (per se') so that the child is suddenly surrounded by loved ones and give the child the ability to heal the angry man through understanding and compassion ... or some other variation.

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I had another experience after I did a deep pink colour meditation, as I awoke, I became aware of this amazing female personality within me, she was warm, compassionate, totally unconditional, wise beyond compare, her colour was deep pink, she smelt of rose and she was perfect. She was my inner self. Then I felt a pain in my chest and stomache, my pain-body. It's as though we are split in two. It explains why my left side (feminin side) is always more active than my masculine and even though im male friends always say I have female characteristics, though I wouldnt go as far as saying feminin behaviour. I thought this was interesting and can explain why some females are more aggressive while some males can be more emotional.

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Generally speaking, the amount of aggression or emotion one experiences usually has to do with biochemical levels.

Your experience however may have more to do with a feeling of dissociation between what your perceived masculine and feminine parts of your self - the question is why? I think there is more going on here than what is appearing on the surface. I'm not a psychologist though and this is just my opinion and could be way out to lunch.

M.

I've been slipping into trances and alternate states for a while now and my intuition has improved allot so I am sure of what i am experiencing. I am at peace with my orientation , but im aware that my soul is more female than male. I have been more female in my past lives.

Thank you for the excersize you gave me. But I figured it out using the beleif paraliminal with session 33 procyon. This worked so well and amazingly fast and got rid of something that was bugging me for over 6 months!!! I'm still totally WTF about it.

I also previously did the dissasociation excersize with the cinema (NLP) and it did not work.

The CD directed me to the origin of the beleif, and enabled me to create the strengths and beleif to overcome it. I turned my beleif around. 'nobody has power over me'. Now the thought doesn't bother me at all and I hardly get junk memories of people in the past, Im still at loss for words because I have been seeing my healer for months and we hadn't tackled this problem.


I have to post the link again. I am at a loss of words how effective it was. http://www.learningstrategies.com/UYL/Bill

I got it from Bill Harris through holosync, hence the special offer.

Thanks for your help and feedback.

I enjoyed reading your posts thanks. p.r.

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I enjoyed reading your posts thanks. p.r.

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Thanks!:)

M.

Hi Marissa,

I was just re-reading some of your replies, and my interpretation of them is very different to what they were before. I was trying to interpret event's through 'mystic' eyes, but now im beginning to understand that certain helucenic representations were distorting my logic for the most part. Your replies were very 'spot on'. I like the part about the biochemical levels and the angry man representing fear from childhood. Now that I have obviously dug much deeper, I can really understand the perspective and logic around your replies. For the most part, I've managed to overcome much of this trauma. It seems to be deep intertwined and of course, most of it is present life while there may be past life/genetic ties and connection's. Another aspect that was motivating my need to ask, was the desire to be heard, which im sure you've noticed.

I haven't used procyon lately, I've retreated to affirmations and continuing kinesiology treatment. On the upside I am openning up a metaphysical shop, the procyon may be a product that I can well sell in the future.

It's so nice to have a more stable mind and be more down to earth and realistic. Trying to explain our repressed memories, thought's and beleifs, can bring about a tangle of confusion and self-defeating behaviour.:)

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Hi Marissa,

I was just re-reading some of your replies, and my interpretation of them is very different to what they were before. I was trying to interpret event's through 'mystic' eyes, but now I'm beginning to understand that certain helucenic representations were distorting my logic for the most part.

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It's an interesting place to be now - having walked in two worlds. It gives you a third perspective. :icon_wink:

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Your replies were very 'spot on'. I like the part about the biochemical levels and the angry man representing fear from childhood. Now that I have obviously dug much deeper, I can really understand the perspective and logic around your replies.

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Wow, thank you. I am honored and humbled by the depth of your insight and willingness to share your thoughts.

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For the most part, I've managed to overcome much of this trauma. It seems to be deep intertwined and of course, most of it is present life while there may be past life/genetic ties and connection's. Another aspect that was motivating my need to ask, was the desire to be heard, which I'm sure you've noticed.

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I think we all have the desire to be heard and to be understood. Trauma can change the way your brain functions and that can make one's journey a bit more challenging. It's like adding extra incline on the treadmill, you have to work harder to get where you want to go. I doubt one could achieve such insight without experiencing and overcoming some hardship. I guess that's why the Buddhists, Toltec mystics and NLPers look at hardship as an opportunity for improvement. Of course, it's a lot easier saying that when you are on the other end, looking back. :icon_wink:

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I haven't used Procyon lately, I've retreated to affirmations and continuing kinesiology treatment. On the upside I am opening up a metaphysical shop, the Procyon may be a product that I can well sell in the future.

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It's great to have other tools (resources) at hand. So what made you decide on a metaphysical shop? I always love going through all the neat stuff that collects in metaphysical shops. I still enjoy working with the tarot and Qabalah. I find the symbolism quite useful.

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It's so nice to have a more stable mind and be more down to earth and realistic. Trying to explain our repressed memories, thought's and beliefs, can bring about a tangle of confusion and self-defeating behavior.:)

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I spend a few years wandering around confused, it's an unsettling place to be. It's one of the reasons I now enjoy science so much - it's sane, it relies on fact and evidence. It has no belief beyond the evidence so while anything is possible, you can use logic to rule out the improbable. It's exciting because there is always more to learn, to discover and it's okay to update your view. I didn't realize how restricted I actually was, before, when I felt the need to believe. :eusa_think:

Good conversation. Thanks!

M.

Thank You Marissa. You're reply was very pleasing for me!

I openned the shop because that's all I can honestly do, I've been obsessed with these thing's for the last 3 years. Some of these books have amazed me, they have some wonderful things and most of my choices were random, yet perfect. I want to buy most of the stuff, thank goodness I can get it at wholesale!

Yes the mind is very very big, deep, complex.

I'm just glad that it is possible to sort through these inner boxes of junk, keep the thing's we benefit from and throw out the rest.

My appreciation will alway's be with you for taking the special time to reply to my posts.

The thing I've been upset the most about lately is self sabotage with relationships. I have had a talent of running away from anything, or doing something to stuff it up before it happens. Including shying away out of fear of being judged, hesitation and not making the move, heck not even noticing an oppertunity until after. Grrr it's annoying and frustrating. ((Extremely!!!)) My mind constantly makes excuses to not go in the direction of my desire (I'll look like an idiot, they won't like me, they will laugh about it with their friends, they will judge me, it feels bad) I retreat, don't make a move when I should and then I suffer from long held guilt regret and remorse of being on my own and not having the experience I wanted, which basically just stay's with me and builds.

One of the CD's I bought was 'loving the inner child' by Louise Hay. When I looked at it I remembered your post. Hmmm.. maybe I should take it home and rip it, save me a few bucks. hehe.

Vahid.

Dear Forum,
Regarding about mind philosophy I still struggling about Monism and Dualism. It does not bother me a lot. I can live with or without that doubt:dontknow: but it can be a part of our believes therefore which approach works best sometimes depend of my sense of humour.

:cheers:
AA

Hi Dear,
How are you doing. Which specific Belief Paraliminal you used with Session 33 Procyon? And how you play with Procyon. Please let me know.
Thanks
Raj

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I've been slipping into trances and alternate states for a while now and my intuition has improved allot so I am sure of what i am experiencing. I am at peace with my orientation , but im aware that my soul is more female than male. I have been more female in my past lives.

Thank you for the excersize you gave me. But I figured it out using the beleif paraliminal with session 33 procyon. This worked so well and amazingly fast and got rid of something that was bugging me for over 6 months!!! I'm still totally WTF about it.

I also previously did the dissasociation excersize with the cinema (NLP) and it did not work.

The CD directed me to the origin of the beleif, and enabled me to create the strengths and beleif to overcome it. I turned my beleif around. 'nobody has power over me'. Now the thought doesn't bother me at all and I hardly get junk memories of people in the past, Im still at loss for words because I have been seeing my healer for months and we hadn't tackled this problem.


I have to post the link again. I am at a loss of words how effective it was. http://www.learningstrategies.com/UYL/Bill

I got it from Bill Harris through holosync, hence the special offer.

Thanks for your help and feedback.

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Just found this site a day or two ago, this thread, wow. The first three posts "How Our Mind Works" , 'The Difference between the Conscious and Unconscious Mind" and "Things to Know about Yourself and Others"... loved them because they ring so true to our experience.

Lowell

Glad you found them useful! Marisa's a pretty smart cookie! ;-)

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I agree. it's intersting!

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Right with you. Just finished reading this post. Thank you for all of this great information. It's greatly appreciated.

Namaste'

Yes, I have heard this for years now, but trying to place it in to my thinking pattern has been a long haul, self hypnosis is the best way for me to accept & remember.

Its quite interesting to find these information about How our mind works, Our subconscious mind can store information for years. I watch movies which i have watched like 5 years ago but i still remember that what's going to happen next in that movie. I found some interesting articles about Subconscious powers and Law of Attraction, i found it useful in providing insights into our subconscious mind, I promise it won't disappoint you.:hello2::eusa_dance:

Excellent thought, how do I get in touch with my unconscious mind? Curious

Excellent summation, but is the thoughts in our mind spiritual giving us our spirituality? It is said we are a spirit living in a human body. What I see I understand, except for hearing my thoughts in my mind, which I want to believe is spiritual. Curious

No, the thoughts aren't spiritual, or seemingly they are not, because damage to brain regions can affect one's ability to think or certainly express what they think. Witness the effects of Alzheimer's disease for instance. And many of our thoughts are related to physical maintenance or reaction to our environment, so those are not spiritual either. However, it can be worth asking what is the origin of certain categories of transcendental thoughts? Like creativity and artistic expression. What is inspiration?

Still, even then, those thoughts are expressed through the body and most certainly the brain. Spirit as a model helps one to address the innate fear of death or dissolution. It is a useful concept for this purpose. Probably this is what you are grappling with?

The brain has it's covering and is part of the body as well. But our consciousness and sub-consciousness comes from the mind which has no covering. Is the mind part of the brain or vice versa and could also be mind over the body? Is it possible to have mind over matter within the mind? Where do our thoughts come from our mind or our brain? How is it I hear my thoughts in my head where our mind and brain are? Curious

These questions are unanswerable. Every bit of knowledge on this planet has been filtered through a brain. Even so-called prophets and messiahs had brains. Although there are numerous reports of extra sensory experiences and disembodied entities, still the perception of them is filtered through the brains of the witnesses.

This quandary will never be solved until we meet or manage to create intelligent physical beings (as opposed to thought forms) with anatomical systems totally different than our own. Only then will we know if intelligence is running as an operating system of which the brain provides one example of suitable hardware, and can be ported to other hardware.

All higher animals have brain-like structures so a brain medium seems to be a requisite.

We know and can see manifestations of the fact that human creativity and imagination are virtually limitless. We can create amazing stories and works of art. We can also fool ourselves quite easily.

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Great posts, Marisa!

I've spent a great deal of time pondering the implications of much of this on our 'free will'.

Given that our conscious is always acting somewhat after the event, that is to say, working only with material the sub-conscious has already had a go at, it could be said that the only free will we have is to decide what we think about what we've just done.

Retraining the subconscious to deal with things differently gives us some possibility of changing future outcomes, but it is only after the new 'program' has been tried that we will know if it leads to the hoped-for results.

Our 'animal' lives in the now, our 'sentience' is a master of hindsight.

Cheers,
Craig

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Hey, trying anyone at this stage isn't going to help you unless you help yourself. I am going to tell you how I overcame this. So I too tried researching and seeking people for this but I ended up reading an article of which I'll include the link later, and then coming to realize that I have plenty of other stuff to do and focus on them instead of this. Hope you understand the point and direction. Get well. Article was on Anxietyscope by the name of Neurotic Depression.
Your friendly psychiatrist,
Alex Cole, MD

Hello,

I find it strange that one can say "It takes two weeks to permanently change a behavior". I usually hear/read that it takes 21 days to change a behavior. But I don't understand why? How can it be that it takes the same duration to change while we are all unique? I don't know if I ever persisted doing a new thing for "that long" but it didn't work for me (so far) to change my workouts and eating habits... If it were that simple, don't you think many more of us would be a better version of ourselves? :eusa_think: