does Kasina light and sound machine do out of body,lucid dream any way? write back anybody
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does Kasina light and sound machine do out of body,lucid dream any way? write back anybody
We cannot honestly say that it 'does' that, no. The Kasina flashes lights at psychoactive brainwave rates, displaying a huge range of beautiful colors. It also has hypnotic soundtracks onboard that are synced with the lights. The combination of these elements can assist people in having very deep meditative experiences. What each particular person is capable of experiencing and how they choose to use the tools that we provide makes the difference in the outcome. It cannot be completely ruled out that you would experience these things or at least begin to create the proper states of mind. But it cannot be guaranteed either.
Hope this helps,
Scott
hi i use Kasina for OB it works for me but i use with mental Technics that will help me to experience that ..if you want to see a full course on this meditations.co.uk use kasina for many online courses on that topic ...kasina is powerful some sessions i fail a sleep before the end of the track it is very cool
The Kasina is a great light and sound machine that can provide you with a great non-physical focus in order to Project with.
Here is the review I wrote for the Kasina: http://www.unlimitedboundaries.ca/20...dplace-review/
If you can get yourself lost in the depth of the lights and sounds, you can definitely use it for Projection (regardless of the label you use for these experiences).
Hi,
Thanks for sharing. Can you give me the link for meditations.co.uk. Looks it is incomplete link. Please give me full address.
Thanks
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Originally Posted by Leandro Carvalho
http://www.meditationsuk.com/courses...evelopment.htm
in this course they talk about OBE but all there courses they use AVS machine to help you develope ability's I find kasina very useful for many visualization exercise i want to learn how to use MWS for creating a free course using some of Zulma Reyo Technics ....one idea that wish mindplace had but i don't know if it going to be popular is that using there glasses light system convert to an sleeping eyes cover it would be perfect to use with (SleepPhones Headphones Headband )why because i always fell sleep in there sleeping sessions and when a turn on my side the glasses became unconfortable I have to take it out to continue my sleep...with that way i cud create session with 5 hours length and the lights cud came on every 20 minutes so the person can be awake in the dream...i cud destroy my glasses and try to adapt on that but i am afraid of lousing it all..i would like to have than both lol
We have looked at sleep masks and I have built my own. It is really easy to do if you are willing to sacrifice a pair of glasses. I use the SleepPhones too and like them a lot. I used this mask and should probably make a DIY tutorial on how to do it. We will have extra Kasina glasses for sale once our stock levels out.
As far a manufacturing them, there has been discussion but nothing settled.
So, if people want this then please speak up!
sounds really interesting i am attempt to do it ..do you mind upload some pics so i have an idea how did it looks like or a tutorial it is even better thanks a lot
@Leandro
Which course you are using with mind machine?
i am using a Brazilian course with kasina astral projection 50 minutes chakras energy exercise all base on visualization and breathing Technics ..the audio is really good special sounds for the exercise but no lights on the glasses so i use a session on kasina on 10 HZ and a my phone for the audio ..no the best but helps me to focus more ..ideally the best is to have 12 hz for the hard part of the concentration and the end 7 hz to gently help you sleep and experience astral projection .and i find one of the most powerful books is( Mastery: Path of Inner Alchemy by Zulma Reyo) truly amazing but be ware if you do this type of exercise eventually you will experience psychic phenomena don't be afraid ..I am planing to buy mws and i will put some time to create something that i will think is perfect for astral projection with kasina and i will be release for free i want to share this :-)
excellent please share the files..when you create it for Kasina for OBE.
that people can OBE.
Here is a little adventure I went on, this was after I played 2 sessions off the Kasina first being the Meditation track, second being the Night Voyage. After these I laid down and had a OBE. I had to follow the vibrations and induce it but the Kasina put me in the correct place to achieve this.
Well, after having a great weekend up north I came home in a rather peaceful connected feeling after cleaning up my place a bit. I was reading a crystal book I had just recieved off amazon and after dosing off on the couch I went to my room to try 2 new tracks on the Kasina Mindplace machine. I started off with the Meditation track which seemed to be a very simple light track that allowed my mind to go whereever I wanted.
I begin with tracing my history of how I ended up out here and all the people I had inerteacted with which seemed quite easy I almost at one point turned it off thinking I could do this without the track but I knew it had me in a certain state of mind to make this visual. I did end this session 45 minutes in which it only runs 50 minutes but decided to try a different one.
Moving on the next one I tried was in the night voyage section called Night Shift - Small description = This incorporates an evolving nature-soundscape from day to night. The light colors change from yellow over green and blue to violet over time. Starting at 12 hz, this ramps to 3.5 hz with plateaus at 10hz, 7.83hz and finally 3.5hz. After playing this session I removed the Kasina and laid face down in my pillow.
Probably not more then 7-10 minutes I felt this buzzing feeling all over my body and decided to play around with it a bit. I could feel my astral head moving like it was trying to tear out of my physical head. Mind you I have never had a OBE while laying face down so this was new to me the feeling and position. I continued to try and yank my head up and to the side with no success, then moving to my feet doing the same... I was stuck, I couldnt exit but I could feel my astral body trying to do so which in itself is a great feeling with full awareness.
I then recalled the method called the rollout method which you attempt to simple rollout of physical body. One attempt of this and BOOM I was out, this was a very light vibration exit which I haven't ever experienced before not the normal pop. I immediately turned around to view myself and went up to my ceiling fan and of course got stuck at the top.
It has been a very long time since I have had a exit as clearly as this one. With my fresh exit I thought I would go to my living room which the door seemed to be thick as I hit it. Pushing again with my mind I was able to go through my room door to my living room and had a strong urge to go outside. Again some thickness on my window but mentally saying push I was outside of my place zooming around having an amazing experience, so freeing and recalling how nice it was to be outside the physical for a bit.
After a few minutes I decided that I wanted to go a bit further so again I focused my thought on my fathers house and attempted to travel. Perhaps I was super rusty because I could feel the mental loading up the location as if it was a hard drive accessing data but nothing happened.
Again I tried with no luck, I am not sure if it was to far or what was stopping me but I continued to just enjoy the local projection and then remembering from my past reads that staying out to long can turn in to a foggy dream so I returned to my physical body and sat up with a cheesy grin on my face.
At this point I am not sure if the Kasina was the inducer or if it was just one of those nights but I did learn a different method of getting out of the body and it will go in my tool set of exiting.
I am very pleased to be writing this as I am everytime I have a successful OBE. I'm sure many may find the topic itself a little out thier but I will suggest trying to achieve one first before being so quick to judge :).
To everyone else that travels, I am sure I don't have to say much, it will go down in as another exit.
A very interesting and classic tale of OBE. Thanks for sharing it.
I am very glad when people share their experiences with our products. They are meant to encourage unique and interesting states of mind. As I have stated earlier in this thread though for the purposes of full disclosure we cannot say what exactly those experiences would be for any given individual. In reaction to much of the over-the-top marketing of brainwave entrainment we as a company pursue a more grounded and supportive role. However, it is very much encouraged that people share with the group what they experience, if nothing else to show what may be possible, but also so we can all learn and discuss.
Subjective and internal experiences are nearly limitless. Actually the limit there is what we choose to consider as possible.
Best,
Scott
Hi leandro, you are using kasina with Brazilian Course?? please tel me what course you are talking.. sou brasiliero, se em entendes e puderes me indicarQuote:
Originally Posted by Leandro Carvalho
esse curso meu email ? fayanez@uol.com.br, busco me aprofundar nesse assunto sonhos lucidos e proje??o astral com brainmachines, e n?o sei muito a respeito no tocante a como usar o programa , quais frequ?ncias etc... Por acaso vc esta falando dos cd?s hemy sunc tamb?m?/
Desde j? obrigado
denis
I'm also interested in everything about OBE, Astral and/or Lucid Dreaming Sessions. I would also try these in combination with subliminals and/or silent subliminals - if someone is looking for a test-person for his sessions, just contact me... :-)
ok vou te enviar os aquivos
Ol?
Leandro,
P?xa legal um Brasileiro por aqui... te agrade?o se puderes me indicar o curso ( aqui do brasil ) que estas fazendo ou j? fizestes.e que te ajudou .e se puderes me mandar por e-mail os arquivos que mencionastes...ou pelo menos o site etc... dei uma olhada na minha caixa postal, caso tenhas mandado , n?o achei...
Desde j? te agrade?o por qualquer indica??o de " caminho" poss?vel a seguir, caso tenhas mandao o email antes se puder colocar aqui o come?o do seu e-mail para eu procurar na minha caixa postal
Muito Obrigado
denis
Let's keep it to English on the forum so everyone can participate, please.
If you want to have a private conversation, you can use the private messaging system within the forum.
Thank you.
Ok Andy,sorry..
I didin?t think about that.
denis
No problem. Thank you for your understanding!Quote:
Originally Posted by Denis
Interesting thread! I am an avid OBE'er, though I have yet to induce one from using anything like binaural beats or the Kasina. Usually I either purposely induce sleep paralysis (which is a pain, can take 2 hours before falling alseep) or I use the WBTB Wake Back To Bed method.Quote:
Originally Posted by machevans
Have you had any followup projection experiences using this same combo?
Is there anyone who has an update for OBE and Kasina?
Thanks.
To be honest, the best way to achieve an LD is to induce it chemically following the protocols developed by Thomas Youschak in his book The Power of Supplements. The simplest way is to go to sleep as normal, wake after about 3 to 4 hours, take some Galantamine, stay awake doing something active like reading for half an hour and then return to bed. Has worked 100% of the time for me. And btw, the would venture to say that a LD is the same neurologically as an OBE.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sebastiii
Thanks for your comment :)
Strange that I didn't receive notification about it will go to look settings.
I'm from France so not sure Galantamine will be available here, from what I have read 8 mg is the dosage and need Galantamine with Choline
So I was able to do one Lucid dream without Galantamine but using DILD method, I don't know if Kasina was a trigger or not like I'm using it very often, it was 13 february 2020 and from this date not much happen, I would like to know if someone does do some track to help to going to the good state for LD :P
Thanks.
I feel Lucid Dreaming is a natural "side effect" of using AVE. The key is using either the light or sound as a crutch, or hand rail if you will to keep an awareness of when you cross the line into sleep and dreaming. Once you can accomplish that, you can suggest to yourself what you want to dream about just before you cross that line.
Not to spill the beans, follow the MindPlace Facebook page. I created a number of sessions for MP, one of them is for Lucid dreaming and OOBE's. They are giving the sessions away every week on Friday.
Hi @JoeV
Thanks for your answer that are very welcome :) and for the newest session on Facebook page.
Just to be sure, what did you call AVE ?Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeV
Thanks.
Audio Visual Entrainment
Hi, and thanks 👍Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeV
The session "Vision Quest" is the one I made for Lucid Dreaming. It was released today on the MindPlace Facebook page.
Hello,Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeV
Thanks for this, I will use it for sure, big thanks, ofc I will report my experience :)
Again thank you :P
Tried twice for now :)
I was able to reach some hypnagogia stage and also little body vibration with no luck for now but will do it more and more and more :)