Attached is a chart that outlines the target frequencies in each session and a Graphical representation of each session along with a description.
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Attached is a chart that outlines the target frequencies in each session and a Graphical representation of each session along with a description.
Thanks Marisa,
I am new here but had a Proteus (unused) for last three years! Now finding time to get back into it, and your information and amazing prolific output in these forums is most valuable. Thanks again.
Richard
Hong Kong
Hi Richard,
Wonderful news that you are getting back into using the Proteus! I'm glad that you have found our forums useful. Thank you so much for taking the time to write us and tell us. As I've mentioned before, this gesture of thoughtfulness is what inspires us to continue to go that extra mile for the public.
:cheers:
M.
Hello Marisa,Quote:
Originally Posted by Marisa
I recently purchased a Proteus and I'm still exploring the machine. The pre-set programs in P1...P49 is fully explained; however pressing the mode button, the reading changes to U01...U14 (not knowing what this is set for), the same applies to Usr (I presume this is saved for personal programming, PC, AS, and DL. other than P1...P49 the setting does make a sound & light waves, nevertheless, I didn't see any material showing the meanings or descriptions of the waves set. Please assist.
Regards,
Ahmad
6106
Hello Ahmad and welcome!
Information regarding all the modes and operation of the Proteus is in the manual that came with your Proteus. If you have lost or misplaced it, it's available as a download here: http://www.mindplacesupport.com/Proteus.htm
BTW, the U01-U14 set is programmed from the factory with Thoughtstream-Enabled Sessions.
If you cannot find the answers you need in the manual, please start a new thread and ask away! Someone will surely assist you.
-Andy.
Hello Andy,
Thank you for explanation, I do have the manual but I kind of gotten lost with the programs and so on. I'll try to use the Pxx to get familiar with the machine and maybe try to explore the U01-U14 later.
Best regards,
Ahmad
At one time there was a document that described the U01-14 programs. This is not avaiable right now. The old document was called; ThoughtStream-Proteus GSR-Controlled Programs.
Cheers,
TomC
The Document you're referring to is here:
http://www.audiostrobe.com/Biofeedba...S_Programs.pdf
(albiet a bit out-of-date...)
-Andy.
Thanks Andy. I have a hard copy of this document but mine has a 'www.syneticsystems.com' under the title. Pretty sure that this is the old MindPlace address.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy
Might be a good idea to include this document in the ThoughtStream support area.
Cheers,
TomC
MindPlace used to be called Synetic Systems a few years back.
I'll check and see if that's an "official" MP document and try and get it up on the web site.
-Andy.
Thanks Andy. Now my next question is about GSR, when it reads "GSR sensitivity to 247% " in U04 (Positive Loop Sessions), does it mean that the session will boost up your sensitivity response up to 247% or the opposite? Can you give me an example for Possitive and Negative Loop Sessions please.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy
Please excuse my ignorance as this is something new to me. Thanks.
Regards,
Ahmad
Hi Ahmad;
I don't really know the answer to that question but I'll try and find out.
I posted the TS-controlled sessions document on the Proteus support site. Thanks, Tom, for letting me know about it! :)
-Andy.
Hi, Ahmad--
According to the (all too brief) session description, this session has a default setting of 247% full-scale. That is, that's the default setting, rather than referring to a change from some other sensitivity setting.
Does that answer your question?
Regards,
Robert
I've downloaded all the documents mentioned above and they're very helpful, thank you. Now I'd like to find out whether my Proteus already has the 'complex sessions' downloaded or not. Do these documents refer to the 'complex' or 'simple' sessions? Once I know this, maybe I can see/hear for myself which ones I'm currently using.
Unfortunately, there no way to "read" what's actually inside the Proteus. It's just one-way communication from the PC to the console.
To be sure you have the Thoughtstream-controlled sessions, download them from the Proteus support page and install them into the Utilites area.
http://www.mindplacesupport.com/Proteus.htm
They are called "Thoughtstream-controlled sessions". The Complex and Simple sessions are not Thoughtstream enabled.
-Andy.
Thanks Andy. My question was not about TS-controlled sessions, I know I have those. Guess the best thing would be to connect to the pc, update the OS (I'm still on 2.3 but didn't want to meddle as it was working fine) and upload the complex sessions. See if there's any change. I'll get back to you if I get in trouble!
You might be able to upload the TS sessions without updating the OS. You could try it at least.
-Andy.
@ Marisa:
Am I right in assuming that the frequencies used in the Proteus Random Session P00 are always within the range of 2 to 16 Hz? Unfortunately, there is no information concerning this issue in the pdf files you posted.
:confused:
Thanks,
Thomas
Thomas,Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas
Session 00 is just random (different every time). Could be any freq's the Proteus can do. If you want to see what it's doing just press the bottom button and the display will show you the freq. and whether it's in normal or expand mode.
I don't find any use for this session except maybe for a little entertainment (like the last 2 proteus sessions; 48,49).
Cheers,
TomC
Hi TomC,
thanks for your post. Still, I think although the Proteus can do any frequency between 0.5 and 50 Hz, I have never seen 30s or 40s in random mode and I would assume that they range from 2 to about 16 Hz instead. Marisa is trying to clarify this issue right now. Will let you know as soon as I get an answer.
Thanks,
Thomas
Hi TomC (and everybody else who might interested ;)),
according to Marisa, the Proteus random session P00 ranges from 0.65 Hz to 19.5 Hz.
Cheers,
Thomas
Hello,
I'd like to know the waveforms used in the factory default sessions. According to Proteus Manual, there are 4 audio wavetables available. I believe the first one is sine wave.
Do all factory sessions use sine wave only ?
According to this document, waveforms other than sine wave have harmonics in higher frequencies, which might have some adverse effect.
Thanks.
Greetings--I had a look at the linked document, which was referring to visual waveforms. It's actually quite old, and is mainly an attack against other light and sound machines being made in the 90s, which used red LEDs. Back then, David offered only incandescent bulbs, which cannot provide sharp 'on/off' rates. Today, he offers LED glasses, including red color.
His concern was that pulsed visual waveforms can create harmonics, and indeed they can. It's not clear from published research that this is a negative aspect, though--rather, it represents David's opinion, based on minimal data. For example, he points out that the frequency range around 18 hz is more likely to trigger a seizure than other frequencies, which is indeed cited in the literature, however only a very small percentage of people are sensitive in this way, usually those with photosensitive epilepsy, and they shouldn't be using LS devices.
I haven't seen any literature suggesting that harmonics in the audio signal can cause any negative effects at all. We generally use sine waves primarily for binaural beat generation in the Proteus, while other waveforms provide more variety in the audio experience, and shifts in these waveforms during a session help keep you from falling asleep (not always desirable).
Hope this helps!
Robert
Hi Robert,
Thanks for your answers.
Is it possible to have wavetable information for the factory default sessions? I believe it might be even better to have the session files (*.pr2) of default sessions. :cool:
BTW, how about the decoded hidden control signals from AudioStrobe CD? Are these decoded signal also have harmonics in the higher frequencies?
Thanks.
I'm pretty sure all the factory sessions use the sinewave wavetable.Quote:
Originally Posted by rick4sher
The default sessions are available for download here: http://www.mindplacesupport.com/Proteus.htmQuote:
I believe it might be even better to have the session files (*.pr2) of default sessions. :cool:
The decoded signals only control the lightframes, not the audio section. The audio from an AS disc comes from the disc itself.Quote:
BTW, how about the decoded hidden control signals from AudioStrobe CD?
-Andy.
:headbang: Thanks Andy, for reminding me about the u01-u14. Really appreciate it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy